The Cultic Clarkian Calvinist?

Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ.Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul?… (I Corinthaians 12,13)

There are some interesting characters to be found on the YouTube medium, but every now and then I find some folks that ride under the Calvinistic banner that are, shall we say, a bit embarrassing. I, too, am a 5-point calvinist but when I ran across this fellow “calvinist” who goes by the YouTube moniker “RedBeetle”  I was taken a back, specifically regarding his  views on other christians who are non-calvinistic. I take particular issue with his pejorative assessment on John Piper predicated upon a notion that Piper holds to an “arminian view of the atonement”. He goes as far as calling Piper “heretical”,  ”false teacher” in need of repentance, Note the following comments from his YT page regarding Piper:

 

Piper made his heretical remarks at the 2004 Reformation Conference.Calvinist John W. Robbins exposed John Piper’s heretical teaching on justification in his 2002 essay titled, “Pied Piper”

Piper never repented from teaching justification by faith and works, and here in this 2004 clip one can hear him openly teaching the heresies known as the 3 Points Of Common Grace. For a comprehensive essay on the 3 Points Of Common Grace

My point in bringing up Beetle’s assessment of Piper (whether true or not is contingent upon what was said in the sermon in question) has more to do with the apparently ridiculous implication that non-calvinists are propagators and peddlers of heresy which they must repent of. I wish these guys (yes there are other like him) would uncover a different appellation to append to their theological subscriptions thereby freeing us “regular” calvinists from the negative connotations they bring to an already slandered (and often misunderstood) theological position…

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  1. Check out Reformed Lou on You Tube he did a great break down of this video in a three part retort.

  2. Thanks Mike…I’ll check out Reformed Lou’s rebuttal to RedBeetle’s libel contra Piper…I thought I smelled a rat.

  3. Excellent! A Calvinist not afraid to call out his fellow idiot devil worshiping fatalists by showing that they contradict themselves! Go RedBeetle go!

  4. Rey,

    Could you clarify your statement for me, I am bit unclear as to its intended intonation?

    • Sam,

      Please ignore Rey, he is to non-Calvinistic Evangelicism what Redbeetle is to Calvinism: a fringe fanatic. When I told Rey he was wrong in his accusation that all Calvinists were Satanists, he told me I would be damned for defending you ‘hell-spawn.’

      • LOL! Thanks for the FYI brother…and congrats on your new baby!!;)

  5. Im not familiar with this Piper sermon,so im not sure if Redbeetle is correct or not. But,if said teaching is in error does that make it heretical just by being false? Or can we disregard false teaching if it comes from a otherwise solid Bible teacher?

  6. ethan,

    Thanks for stopping by!

    The underlying issue appears to be RedBeetle’s theological predisposition to a Clarkian brand of Calvinism (which may not be indicative of all of Clark’s followers) that subjectively relegates other schools of theology (particularly Arminianism) as false hence heretical. I clearly view this as irrational and theologically bigoted…

    • I see what your saying. But if a teaching is in fact false,does that not also mean it is heretical? Unless a heretic is specific to mean that the person is unregenerate. Then is guess a false teaching would not be heresy. Everyone errs. Thank-you for your time. P.S. I watched the 3 video’s and it is obvious Monty is wrong,or even worse.

  7. Reformed Lou on YT (link in first comment) created a solid refutation of Beetle’s bogus charge.

  8. Someone please tell me, which Institute of Christianity teaches men to burn men at the stake?

    Particularly, the mean spirited effect, as Calvin fancied, using green wood.

    Thanks a bunch, chumps :O)

  9. Calvin did not have Servatus burned at the stake…JamesWhite has a lucid account about what really occurred…


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